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		<title>By: AndrewBoldman</title>
		<link>http://brotherskeptapart.com/2009/02/20/introduction/#comment-101</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 00:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, cool post. I have been wondering about this topic,so thanks for writing.

&lt;strong&gt;Hi Andrew:

You are welcome.&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, cool post. I have been wondering about this topic,so thanks for writing.</p>
<p><strong>Hi Andrew:</p>
<p>You are welcome.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Lodewijk Langeweg</title>
		<link>http://brotherskeptapart.com/2009/02/20/introduction/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lodewijk Langeweg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 22:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PS:
On the Amazon Islam forum I found a very &quot;Christian&quot; like sounding statement made by an Imam: 

http://www.amazon.com/tag/islam/forum/ref=cm_cd_pg_pg1?%5Fencoding=UTF8&amp;cdForum=Fx2YU5IAI2FCUZJ&amp;cdPage=1&amp;cdSort=oldest&amp;cdThread=Tx3ULL50SJ9T80S&amp;displayType=tagsDetail

I also posted some info on Brothers Kept Apart there on the second page.

And here I found out about the book:

http://www.amazon.com/tag/islam/forum/ref=cm_cd_ef_tft_tp?%5Fencoding=UTF8&amp;cdForum=Fx2YU5IAI2FCUZJ&amp;cdThread=Tx2UUZJ5RMYN5BZ&amp;displayType=tagsDetail

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Thank you Lodewijk.

Regards,
Walter&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS:<br />
On the Amazon Islam forum I found a very &#8220;Christian&#8221; like sounding statement made by an Imam: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/tag/islam/forum/ref=cm_cd_pg_pg1?%5Fencoding=UTF8&#038;cdForum=Fx2YU5IAI2FCUZJ&#038;cdPage=1&#038;cdSort=oldest&#038;cdThread=Tx3ULL50SJ9T80S&#038;displayType=tagsDetail" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/tag/islam/forum/ref=cm_cd_pg_pg1?%5Fencoding=UTF8&#038;cdForum=Fx2YU5IAI2FCUZJ&#038;cdPage=1&#038;cdSort=oldest&#038;cdThread=Tx3ULL50SJ9T80S&#038;displayType=tagsDetail</a></p>
<p>I also posted some info on Brothers Kept Apart there on the second page.</p>
<p>And here I found out about the book:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/tag/islam/forum/ref=cm_cd_ef_tft_tp?%5Fencoding=UTF8&#038;cdForum=Fx2YU5IAI2FCUZJ&#038;cdThread=Tx2UUZJ5RMYN5BZ&#038;displayType=tagsDetail" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/tag/islam/forum/ref=cm_cd_ef_tft_tp?%5Fencoding=UTF8&#038;cdForum=Fx2YU5IAI2FCUZJ&#038;cdThread=Tx2UUZJ5RMYN5BZ&#038;displayType=tagsDetail</a></p>
<p><em><strong>Thank you Lodewijk.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Walter</strong></em></p>
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		<title>By: Lodewijk Langeweg</title>
		<link>http://brotherskeptapart.com/2009/02/20/introduction/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lodewijk Langeweg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Walter,
I just finished reading your inspiring book.
I have posted a lot on the other threads, and not to take op more space I will make this my last one.

Considering that &quot;All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.&quot; (John 1:3) everything we see was made through Him.    
This means that the Scripture and the words of God in it were made through Him also.
And recognizing that God&#039;s Son is the life, -“I am the way, the truth, and the life.&quot;- (John 14:6) not experiencing God&#039;s Son is not experiencing life. It is therefore experiencing  death. No matter how much it might seem life to us.

Keeping these things in mind, listen to hear as who&#039;s voice the following words of the Son of God sound in your head while you read them: 

&quot;Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live.&quot; (John 25:5)

Remember that &quot;obey&quot; comes from the , Latin ob &quot;to&quot; + audire &quot;listen, hear&quot;.

So please listen carefully again and hear as who&#039;s voice these words of God sound in you now:

&quot;But the word is very near you, in your mouth and in your heart, that you may do it.&quot; (Deut. 30:14)

Just listen while you read to hear as who&#039;s  voice these words of God sound in your mind now:

&quot;And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.&quot; (Isaiah 29:18) 

&quot;He will not cry out, nor raise His voice, Nor cause His voice to be heard in the street.&quot; (Isaiah 42:2)

Hear as who&#039;s voice the following thoughts of God sound in you:

&quot;Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says: &#039;Today, if you will hear His voice: &#039;Do not harden your hearts, as in the rebellion,&#039;&quot; (Heb. 3:6-8)


God has blessed you with Himself.

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Hi Lodewijk:

Thank-you for reading.  Thank you also for your admonition.  As humans, we are prone to error, especially without God’s guidance.

To attempt an honest examination of the evidence, I tried to be as conscientious looking for evidence that did not support my biased views as those that did.  I allowed the book to receive 7 years of pre-publication review, because we humans tend to be less critical of our own work that someone else’s. 

Regards,
Grenville&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Walter,<br />
I just finished reading your inspiring book.<br />
I have posted a lot on the other threads, and not to take op more space I will make this my last one.</p>
<p>Considering that &#8220;All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.&#8221; (John 1:3) everything we see was made through Him.<br />
This means that the Scripture and the words of God in it were made through Him also.<br />
And recognizing that God&#8217;s Son is the life, -“I am the way, the truth, and the life.&#8221;- (John 14:6) not experiencing God&#8217;s Son is not experiencing life. It is therefore experiencing  death. No matter how much it might seem life to us.</p>
<p>Keeping these things in mind, listen to hear as who&#8217;s voice the following words of the Son of God sound in your head while you read them: </p>
<p>&#8220;Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live.&#8221; (John 25:5)</p>
<p>Remember that &#8220;obey&#8221; comes from the , Latin ob &#8220;to&#8221; + audire &#8220;listen, hear&#8221;.</p>
<p>So please listen carefully again and hear as who&#8217;s voice these words of God sound in you now:</p>
<p>&#8220;But the word is very near you, in your mouth and in your heart, that you may do it.&#8221; (Deut. 30:14)</p>
<p>Just listen while you read to hear as who&#8217;s  voice these words of God sound in your mind now:</p>
<p>&#8220;And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.&#8221; (Isaiah 29:18) </p>
<p>&#8220;He will not cry out, nor raise His voice, Nor cause His voice to be heard in the street.&#8221; (Isaiah 42:2)</p>
<p>Hear as who&#8217;s voice the following thoughts of God sound in you:</p>
<p>&#8220;Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says: &#8216;Today, if you will hear His voice: &#8216;Do not harden your hearts, as in the rebellion,&#8217;&#8221; (Heb. 3:6-8)</p>
<p>God has blessed you with Himself.</p>
<p><em><strong>Hi Lodewijk:</p>
<p>Thank-you for reading.  Thank you also for your admonition.  As humans, we are prone to error, especially without God’s guidance.</p>
<p>To attempt an honest examination of the evidence, I tried to be as conscientious looking for evidence that did not support my biased views as those that did.  I allowed the book to receive 7 years of pre-publication review, because we humans tend to be less critical of our own work that someone else’s. </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Grenville</strong></em></p>
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		<title>By: Jinny</title>
		<link>http://brotherskeptapart.com/2009/02/20/introduction/#comment-52</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, 
Thanks for article. Everytime like to read you.
Thanks
Jinny

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Hi Jinny:

You are welcome.

Regards,
Walter&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
Thanks for article. Everytime like to read you.<br />
Thanks<br />
Jinny</p>
<p><em><strong>Hi Jinny:</p>
<p>You are welcome.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Walter</strong></em></p>
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		<title>By: Khan</title>
		<link>http://brotherskeptapart.com/2009/02/20/introduction/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Khan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have read the book or better to say studied it and find it quite illuminating and scholorly.
There are certainly many a truth in both the books that can direct one to coexist without strife and with interpretational differences. I think the problem lies in the so called organisational heads that have either narrow outlook or preconceived notion of what is right with their religion and what is absolutly wrong in other religion.
Do you plan to study and publish about the various traditional differences more in detail?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read the book or better to say studied it and find it quite illuminating and scholorly.<br />
There are certainly many a truth in both the books that can direct one to coexist without strife and with interpretational differences. I think the problem lies in the so called organisational heads that have either narrow outlook or preconceived notion of what is right with their religion and what is absolutly wrong in other religion.<br />
Do you plan to study and publish about the various traditional differences more in detail?</p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
		<link>http://brotherskeptapart.com/2009/02/20/introduction/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 06:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi again Walter, 

I wanted to let you know that I bought your book and am almost done reading it.  I will have a complete review up on my blog probably next week, inshallah.  I am enjoying the read, but I still don&#039;t agree with one of your theses.  Please read my comment over at my blog, as it is too long to write it in full here: http://e5pre55odr1nk5.blogspot.com/2009/03/noble-quran-most-complete-of-divine.html

Peace, 
Kay

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Hi Kay:

If we are down to one then we must be making progress.  I will respond to your post over at your blog.

Regards,
Walter &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again Walter, </p>
<p>I wanted to let you know that I bought your book and am almost done reading it.  I will have a complete review up on my blog probably next week, inshallah.  I am enjoying the read, but I still don&#8217;t agree with one of your theses.  Please read my comment over at my blog, as it is too long to write it in full here: <a href="http://e5pre55odr1nk5.blogspot.com/2009/03/noble-quran-most-complete-of-divine.html" rel="nofollow">http://e5pre55odr1nk5.blogspot.com/2009/03/noble-quran-most-complete-of-divine.html</a></p>
<p>Peace,<br />
Kay</p>
<p><em><strong>Hi Kay:</p>
<p>If we are down to one then we must be making progress.  I will respond to your post over at your blog.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Walter </strong></em></p>
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		<title>By: Rudy</title>
		<link>http://brotherskeptapart.com/2009/02/20/introduction/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rudy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;ve done a good job of exposing and stripping the man-made religious traditions from Islam and Christianity.  All that&#039;s left is harmony.

But I&#039;m not as optimistic as you.  The Christian and Islamic leaders will never abandon their man-made traditions, any more than the Jews were willing to do when confronted by none other than Jesus.

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Dear Rudy:

Regrettably, the historical evidence supports your assertion.  Jesus’ harshest words were for religious leaders who embraced man-made traditions that negated God’s laws.

Religious leaders tend to want to remain in positions of power.  Their unwillingness to consider alternative interpretations of the evidence has generally led to the development of new sects.

Regards,
Walter&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve done a good job of exposing and stripping the man-made religious traditions from Islam and Christianity.  All that&#8217;s left is harmony.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m not as optimistic as you.  The Christian and Islamic leaders will never abandon their man-made traditions, any more than the Jews were willing to do when confronted by none other than Jesus.</p>
<p><em><strong>Dear Rudy:</p>
<p>Regrettably, the historical evidence supports your assertion.  Jesus’ harshest words were for religious leaders who embraced man-made traditions that negated God’s laws.</p>
<p>Religious leaders tend to want to remain in positions of power.  Their unwillingness to consider alternative interpretations of the evidence has generally led to the development of new sects.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Walter</strong></em></p>
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		<title>By: Serenity</title>
		<link>http://brotherskeptapart.com/2009/02/20/introduction/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Serenity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Congratulations on your book, sir. But, I have one question: 
I have went through the Quran and found no section that says Muslims have to distibute the Bible, although I know they believe in the &quot;long ago&quot; scripture, and that the present-day scripture has been reformed.
Could you please tell me which Quran you were using and the section of &quot;distribute the Bible&quot;? 
Graciously, 
Serenity

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Dear Serenity:

In 4:136, Muslims are instructed to believe the Books sent before, and not to deny them.  Verses 3:84 and 6:84-89 identify those books, which are those contained in the Bible.  Verse 6:90 then gives the instruction.  You can use any generally accepted translation; I mainly used Yusuf Ali&#039;s.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Those were they who received God&#039;s guidance: Copy the guidance they received; Say: &quot;No reward for this do I ask of you: This is no less than a message for the nations.&quot; (6:90)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I am aware of the Islamic traditional argument about corrupted Biblical manuscripts; however, this teaching not only damages verses in the Qur’an, but conflicts with the verified historical record.  Further detailed evidence is provided in the book.  

Regards,
Walter&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations on your book, sir. But, I have one question:<br />
I have went through the Quran and found no section that says Muslims have to distibute the Bible, although I know they believe in the &#8220;long ago&#8221; scripture, and that the present-day scripture has been reformed.<br />
Could you please tell me which Quran you were using and the section of &#8220;distribute the Bible&#8221;?<br />
Graciously,<br />
Serenity</p>
<p><em><strong>Dear Serenity:</p>
<p>In 4:136, Muslims are instructed to believe the Books sent before, and not to deny them.  Verses 3:84 and 6:84-89 identify those books, which are those contained in the Bible.  Verse 6:90 then gives the instruction.  You can use any generally accepted translation; I mainly used Yusuf Ali&#8217;s.</p>
<blockquote><p>Those were they who received God&#8217;s guidance: Copy the guidance they received; Say: &#8220;No reward for this do I ask of you: This is no less than a message for the nations.&#8221; (6:90)</p></blockquote>
<p>I am aware of the Islamic traditional argument about corrupted Biblical manuscripts; however, this teaching not only damages verses in the Qur’an, but conflicts with the verified historical record.  Further detailed evidence is provided in the book.  </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Walter</strong></em></p>
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		<title>By: Jefferson Boyle</title>
		<link>http://brotherskeptapart.com/2009/02/20/introduction/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jefferson Boyle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Mr Phillips, Congratulations on a brilliant piece of original research.  But how did you arrive at those interpretations which reasonably reconcile the two religious books.  What made you decide to identify Hagar’s declaration as the source of the word for Allah?  I have never read anyone else make many of the arguments that you have.  I am also interested in your proposed solution to the Middle East conflict.

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Dear Mr Boyle:

Thank you for your encouraging words.

I cannot say for certain how I arrived at the interpretations, or why I chose Hagar’s declaration as the possible and likely source of the word for Allah.  I can say that writing the book was analogous to completing a jigsaw puzzle with no final pattern to guide me.  Therefore, I had to rely on how precisely each piece fit the adjacent pieces without forcing them into place or bruising the interfaces, rather than on whether it fit into a predetermined religious traditional pattern.

I will open another web-site where we can discuss resolving the Middle East conflict.

Regards,
Walter&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr Phillips, Congratulations on a brilliant piece of original research.  But how did you arrive at those interpretations which reasonably reconcile the two religious books.  What made you decide to identify Hagar’s declaration as the source of the word for Allah?  I have never read anyone else make many of the arguments that you have.  I am also interested in your proposed solution to the Middle East conflict.</p>
<p><em><strong>Dear Mr Boyle:</p>
<p>Thank you for your encouraging words.</p>
<p>I cannot say for certain how I arrived at the interpretations, or why I chose Hagar’s declaration as the possible and likely source of the word for Allah.  I can say that writing the book was analogous to completing a jigsaw puzzle with no final pattern to guide me.  Therefore, I had to rely on how precisely each piece fit the adjacent pieces without forcing them into place or bruising the interfaces, rather than on whether it fit into a predetermined religious traditional pattern.</p>
<p>I will open another web-site where we can discuss resolving the Middle East conflict.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Walter</strong></em></p>
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		<title>By: leigh</title>
		<link>http://brotherskeptapart.com/2009/02/20/introduction/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[leigh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 07:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is the religious solution or do we have to buy the book for that too? It&#039;s  great line to say to comments to  read your  book and come back to the forum. You must have had a lifetime in marketing. 
Surely you would share your findings free on line and also sell hard copies of your book as many writers do 
Are book sales your retirement fund?!

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Dear Leigh:

My response to each of your concerns follows.

1.  After reading Brothers Kept Apart in its entirety, the religious solution may be obvious.

2.  This site is set up for the expressed purpose of discussing the evidence provided in the book that shows harmony between the principal teachings of the Bible and the Qur’an.  There have been 7 years of pre-publication discussions on this study without any conditions.  For efficient post-publication discussions, I have only one condition – read the book first, not purchase it, but read it.

3.  I am not, nor have I had any formal training, in the marketing field.  While the book may be purchased, even as an economical e-book, I would much prefer that you read it.  The requisite applications have already been approved so that you may borrow it from your local library free of cost.  If you or anyone else experiences any challenges obtaining the book from their local library, then please inform me and I would happily dispatch a copy to them.

4.  I am not eligible for retirement benefits for another 20 years.  Book sales were and are not included in my retirement plans.

Regards,
Walter&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the religious solution or do we have to buy the book for that too? It&#8217;s  great line to say to comments to  read your  book and come back to the forum. You must have had a lifetime in marketing.<br />
Surely you would share your findings free on line and also sell hard copies of your book as many writers do<br />
Are book sales your retirement fund?!</p>
<p><em><strong>Dear Leigh:</p>
<p>My response to each of your concerns follows.</p>
<p>1.  After reading Brothers Kept Apart in its entirety, the religious solution may be obvious.</p>
<p>2.  This site is set up for the expressed purpose of discussing the evidence provided in the book that shows harmony between the principal teachings of the Bible and the Qur’an.  There have been 7 years of pre-publication discussions on this study without any conditions.  For efficient post-publication discussions, I have only one condition – read the book first, not purchase it, but read it.</p>
<p>3.  I am not, nor have I had any formal training, in the marketing field.  While the book may be purchased, even as an economical e-book, I would much prefer that you read it.  The requisite applications have already been approved so that you may borrow it from your local library free of cost.  If you or anyone else experiences any challenges obtaining the book from their local library, then please inform me and I would happily dispatch a copy to them.</p>
<p>4.  I am not eligible for retirement benefits for another 20 years.  Book sales were and are not included in my retirement plans.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Walter</strong></em></p>
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